Орден Святого Георгия/Sankt Georgs-Orden
- Автор темы Igor Ostapenko
- Дата начала
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После 1866 года Ганновер стал прусской провинцией.
Не за тех воевали в 1866 году.
Не за тех воевали в 1866 году.
После 1866 года Ганновер стал прусской провинцией.Не за тех воевали в 1866 году.
Ошибка для королевства - трагедия для фалеристики
Alex Ponomarev
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Alex Ponomarev
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Похоже на его работу, но придворным ювелиром Carl Büsch станет только в 1863 году
Wolfgang Scheffler в своей книге: Friedrich Carl Büsch, in: Goldschmiede Niedersachsens. Daten, Werke, Zeichen, 1. Halbband, Aerzen - Hamburg, Berlin: de Gruyter, 1965, S. 774;
утверждает, что в 1860 году:
"1860 wurde Büsch zum hannoverschen Hofjuwelier ernannt und erhielt vom welfischen Königshaus den Auftrag, die vom Hofe benötigten Orden und Ehrenzeichen zu liefern, diese jedoch ausschließlich in der eigenen Werkstatt herzustellen."
Да, посмотрел.
Вики также ссылается на этот источник
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Büsch
Любопытно, почему Андреас пишет у себя
Letztlich müssen auch seit ca. 1860 von Carl Büsch, Hofjuwelier seit 1863, Ordenszeichen geliefert worden sein.
Вики также ссылается на этот источник
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Büsch
Любопытно, почему Андреас пишет у себя
Letztlich müssen auch seit ca. 1860 von Carl Büsch, Hofjuwelier seit 1863, Ordenszeichen geliefert worden sein.
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С этими понятиями часто возникает путаница, сталкивался много раз.
Есть звание придворного ювелира, юридически это бумажка, которую выдают от имени короля(герцога и т.д.).
Но ювелир может обслуживать не короля, а королеву или принцев.
По факту, он тогда тоже придворный ювелир, но без бумажки от короля.
И подписаться имеет право, например: придворный ювелир его высочества наследного принца.
HANOVER - THE ORDER OF SAINT GEORGE
This order was founded on the 23rd April, 1839, as the "Order of the House of Hanover". The statutes appoint the Kings of Hanover Grand Masters, and allow of only one class, called the Knights of St. George.
The sons and brothers of the King are Knights by birth, while the Princes of the royal family have a claim to it. The number of native members is fixed (exclusive of the royal Princes) at sixteen, which cannot be exceeded without some special grounds. With the exception of Dukes and Princes, no member can be admitted before the completion of his thirtieth year of age.
Only noblemen of unblemished reputation are eligible, and those who are already in possession of the Grand Cross of the Guelphic Order.
The badge is an octagonal dark blue enamelled cross, the centre of the obverse representing St. George with lance and dragon, and the reverse the initial of the King. This cross (No. 11) is worn across the right shoulder by a dark red watered ribbon, about four and a quarter inches wide.
Close to it is fastened, on the left breast, a star embroidered in silver. The centre of the star contains likewise St. George on horseback, and the motto : "Nunquam retrorsum" (Never backward) (No. 10.).
The Knights wear besides, the Cross of the Guelphic Order round the neck, saltire-ways. The members must possess the rank of at least Lieutenant-general ; they are allowed to join the insignia to their family crest on seals or otherwise.
This order was founded on the 23rd April, 1839, as the "Order of the House of Hanover". The statutes appoint the Kings of Hanover Grand Masters, and allow of only one class, called the Knights of St. George.
The sons and brothers of the King are Knights by birth, while the Princes of the royal family have a claim to it. The number of native members is fixed (exclusive of the royal Princes) at sixteen, which cannot be exceeded without some special grounds. With the exception of Dukes and Princes, no member can be admitted before the completion of his thirtieth year of age.
Only noblemen of unblemished reputation are eligible, and those who are already in possession of the Grand Cross of the Guelphic Order.
The badge is an octagonal dark blue enamelled cross, the centre of the obverse representing St. George with lance and dragon, and the reverse the initial of the King. This cross (No. 11) is worn across the right shoulder by a dark red watered ribbon, about four and a quarter inches wide.
Close to it is fastened, on the left breast, a star embroidered in silver. The centre of the star contains likewise St. George on horseback, and the motto : "Nunquam retrorsum" (Never backward) (No. 10.).
The Knights wear besides, the Cross of the Guelphic Order round the neck, saltire-ways. The members must possess the rank of at least Lieutenant-general ; they are allowed to join the insignia to their family crest on seals or otherwise.
Alex Ponomarev
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У меня тоже нет.
